http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/ Forum » Topic: MySpace & Facebook - What's the deal? en Thu, 09 Sep 2010 23:37:10 +0000 http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/topic/myspace-038-facebook-whats-the-deal#post-257 Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:25:54 +0000 High_Noonan 257@http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/ <p>ellen said: <blockquote>I nerdily like the fact that she's my friend on FB too, but I'd never expect her to spend a huge amount of time on there.</blockquote><br /> Count me in that nerd clan. </p> <p>I kind of like the way that you guys are pulling this site together with all the various RSS feeds. I mean, that just makes sense. Find the tools that you like best and aggregate them on to one site in the easiest way possible.</p> <p>kristinhersh.com is KristinSpace...and there are no dumb ads! ;-) </p> http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/topic/myspace-038-facebook-whats-the-deal#post-254 Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:59:56 +0000 ellen 254@http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/ <p>I nerdily like the fact that she's my friend on FB too, but I'd never expect her to spend a huge amount of time on there. I think it's impressive that she/Bily spent enough time on there to even set up a profile!<br /> You guys worry too much, I don't think any of us are expecting K to be an active participant in every social networking site going, would rather she spent her time writing &#38; playing music :), I think you already do more community wise than most, &#38; it's great to know we can get in touch with you Billy if need be. </p> http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/topic/myspace-038-facebook-whats-the-deal#post-251 Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:33:32 +0000 plaintiger 251@http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/ <p>muser said:</p> <p><blockquote>I must say though, it is cool when I see KH related things pop up in my FB newsfeed as though she was an actual friend of mine. A nerdy kind of cool.</blockquote></p> <p>exactly how i feel about getting Kristin's twitter channel-thingy on my cellphone. :)</p> <p>and even the "She's *my friend!*" fantasy aside, it has the effect of just peppering my every day with little unexpected pleasures. i really can't recommend it enough to any fan of Hers.</p> <p>w. </p> http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/topic/myspace-038-facebook-whats-the-deal#post-250 Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:08:43 +0000 plaintiger 250@http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/ <p>BillyO said:</p> <p><blockquote>Personally, as an aside, I just can't stand spending much time [on MySpace]. It hurts my senses and my sensibilities.</blockquote></p> <p>my sentiments exacto-precisely. i spend a fair amount of time (read: too much time) on facebook; i admit though, and however sheepishly, that this is almost exclusively because they've added some fun games. :P i think the site's an exercise in terrible design and the 1% or so of my facebook "friends" that are actually real-life friends of mine, i never communicate with on there, but rather through email, IMs, or whatever. but MySpace...well, i often wonder that i have a profile on there at all. i don't remember why i established one and every time i go to the site - which on average is probably once every six months - my first impulse is to get the hell out of there. just looking at it constitutes self-abuse.</p> <p>i mention KH/TM/5FW etc. periodically in my facebook...profile...or on my home page...or...wherever the hell i mention them (i don't know where's where on that site) just in case anyone happens across it and gets curious (and because i'm proud to be a fan :), but i don't even bother on MySpace. i don't do anything there. i actually feel like to mention Kristin et al. on there would almost be to disgrace them. Kristin's work should be seen in a cleaner light.</p> <p>sorry...no offense meant to anyone who thinks more highly of MySpace than do i. Billy's post speaking my own thoughts so perfectly just sort of triggered a rant i guess. :)</p> <p>walt </p> http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/topic/myspace-038-facebook-whats-the-deal#post-189 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:04:10 +0000 conski 189@http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/ <p>I just want to say that displaying K's twitters on the home page is just great for those of us who don't twitter. </p> http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/topic/myspace-038-facebook-whats-the-deal#post-179 Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:52:37 +0000 theonetruebix 179@http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/ <p>What irks me about, as Billy puts it, MySpaceBook and related ilk is that technically the tools exist, although in various forms of readiness, to build self-hosted and distributed social networks that don't depend upon everyone having accounts on the same damned sites. But (as far as I know, anyway) no one's ever made it super-easy to implement and so it's just never caught on. </p> http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/topic/myspace-038-facebook-whats-the-deal#post-170 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:06:08 +0000 BillyO 170@http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/ <p>Thanks for the feedback guys...I've been wanting to put our lack of enthusiasm for MySpaceBook into words for some time - if only to clarify our own feelings about them. </p> <p>Having your comments has been helpful and constructive...and much appreciated! </p> http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/topic/myspace-038-facebook-whats-the-deal#post-168 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:27:04 +0000 woj 168@http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/ <p>i would tend to agree with michele about myspace: it's not easy on the eye and has certainly gotten progressively worse with the ads and such but it's a large population of potential ears which, more often than you would expect, don't spend a lot of time elsewhere on the internet. for example, i help maintain a tori amos news site and we often post news about stuff well before it gets posted on her official myspace page. and yet, amazingly, many of the myspacers claim to have been completely unaware of these news items despite it being well-known throughout the tori fan community that spans a large number of sites ranging from news sites like ours to official and fan forums such as this one and wild vanilla.</p> <p>so i do think there is value in keeping the myspace blog/bulletins updated with the latest big news. </p> <p>but beyond that, well, i don't see much value. the community features are clunky and annoying, so use it as a gateway that brings people here.</p> <p>@theonetruebix: i wasn't thrilled by facebook's first/last name thing either. i just go by "woj sven-woj" there and they've left me alone. then again, maybe that's cos it sorta looks like it might be a real name. who knows? </p> http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/topic/myspace-038-facebook-whats-the-deal#post-165 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:00:54 +0000 theonetruebix 165@http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/ <p>I have a MySpace account only to preserve the name should I ever need it. (Haven't yet.) I explored Facebook once, but they insist on standard first/last names and the reality is anyone who actually knows me, online and off, knows me this way. (As a joke, I did put up a fan page for myself on Facebook for awhile, then I got tired on the joke and disabled my account.)</p> <p>But yes, Twitter. Bane and boon of my Internet existence. </p> http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/topic/myspace-038-facebook-whats-the-deal#post-164 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 06:25:11 +0000 sarahcryst 164@http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/ <p>Clarifying a bit - I totally understand about not wanting to spend much time on Myspace. The atmosphere's not all that inviting. But I think it's great that the pages are there. Whatever you're doing right now works, in my opinion at least! </p> http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/topic/myspace-038-facebook-whats-the-deal#post-163 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:48:50 +0000 muser 163@http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/ <p>Oh I hate MySpace. I don't mind Facebook but I don't go for all the annoying apps etc. I must say though, it is cool when I see KH related things pop up in my FB newsfeed as though she was an <em>actual friend</em> of mine. A nerdy kind of cool. </p> http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/topic/myspace-038-facebook-whats-the-deal#post-162 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 02:59:37 +0000 michele 162@http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/ <p>i have no experience with facebook, but have been contemplating it for a while.</p> <p>as far as myspace is concerned, i don't think you need to spend a lot time on it to get some sort of 'something positive' out of it. as much as i agree with all of the bad aspects of myspace, some good does come out of it. i will on occasion spend a little time browsing friends lists and it's amazing where it will lead you to sometimes. that possibility right there is enough to spend a bit of time there. </p> <p>nothing will replace or even compare to this community, but all of us here are already 'sold'. i think all you would need to do is post blogs and send bulletins when big stuff is happening. send it out and direct folks here. i think there is definitely potential to reach people that aren't already 'here'.</p> <p>other than that, just log in a couple times a week so people know you're still there! </p> http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/topic/myspace-038-facebook-whats-the-deal#post-160 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 02:15:46 +0000 fifteen pieces of flair 160@http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/ <p>Amen to that Billy O! </p> <p>Stee </p> http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/topic/myspace-038-facebook-whats-the-deal#post-159 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:25:33 +0000 BillyO 159@http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/ <p>@saracryst: I totally get the 'music discovery' aspect of MySpace, and give it it's due, especially in light of the fact that it brought you back to KH. It's why we maintain a profile there, and change the tracks from time to time.</p> <p>Personally, as an aside, I just can't stand spending much time there. It hurts my senses and my sensibilities. Plus, all the other things I said. </p> http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/topic/myspace-038-facebook-whats-the-deal#post-155 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:41:30 +0000 sarahcryst 155@http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/ <p>I've always seen Myspace as two separate entities. There's the social-networking part, which is populated mainly by high school children and pretty bad. Then there's the music part, which is how I make decisions as to what to buy. You can discover SO many new bands by browsing friend lists. It's another world.</p> <p>And it's how I rediscovered Kristin - through the LTSLAS samples on her Myspace. </p> http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/topic/myspace-038-facebook-whats-the-deal#post-154 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:39:45 +0000 dollface 154@http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/ <p>Thanks for the vid, interesting stuff &#38; this new place proves the importance of this community (&#38; other grass roots groups) &#38; how this medium can work in a positive way. I for one never imagined all those years ago that we could end up having such a relationship with an artist we love &#38; respect so much. With everything that's been going on with &#38; between K &#38; her fans, I marvel at the mutual effect we've all been having on each other of late...</p> <p>ps I am completely addicted to K's Twitters. It's my first computer-port-of-call each day, &#38; is guaranteed to either move me or make me smile (or both)!! </p> http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/topic/myspace-038-facebook-whats-the-deal#post-153 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:23:23 +0000 conski 153@http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/ <p>As long as you have a link to kristenhersh.com somewhere on the profile, anyone truly interested will find their way here.</p> <p>I recently joined Facebook and find myself suddenly being "friends" with people I haven't seen since Junior High! </p> <p>And really, nothing so far has made me regret that lack of contact... </p> http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/topic/myspace-038-facebook-whats-the-deal#post-151 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:11:57 +0000 BillyO 151@http://www.kristinhersh.com/forum/ <p>Some of you have asked why Kristin doesn't do more with her Facebook and MySpace profiles, specifically why she doesn't spend more time with them. I thought this forum might be a good place to discuss that.</p> <p>The simple truth is that while MySpace might be useful to the newest newbie to Kristin's music (and therefore <em>somewhat</em> useful to us), it's also kind of insulting and inane for the rest of us - and by "us" in this case, I mean those of us in this community - you, Kristin and me. I dislike all the "noise", I dislike the meaningless friending and I dislike the corporation. MySpace will never be where we spend much time or energy. We care way more about a place like this, where we can have meaningful interactions - and amplify them, sharing our individual communications (and connections), which we <em>love</em> and <em>value</em>, with the larger community.</p> <p>Same for Facebook. Although Facebook's less offensive, we haven't spent much time over there either. To be honest, it's just not that important and seems kind of silly, really.</p> <p>Bottom line: This is the place that matters to us and we want to make sure it matters to you, too. We've done some amazing things together - with each of us on the receiving end of some pretty special gifts.</p> <p>None of us has unlimited time or resources -- we want to make sure we make the most of ours. You all are a pretty damn good investment in our estimation.</p> <p>Lots of love.</p> <p>B + K</p> <p>p.s. - <a href="http://www.openforum.com/marketing/video_socialgood.html">This video</a> inspired this post. If you don't know <a href="http://sethgodin.typepad.com/">Seth Godin</a>, you should. He's a hero of ours and a mighty warrior in the battle between the meaningless and the meaningful. And <a href="http://www.tompeters.com/">Tom</a> <a href="http://www.dailylit.com/books/100-ways-to-succeed-make-money">Peters</a> is no slouch himself.</p> <p>p.p.s. - But we <em>love</em> Twitter. </p>