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		<title>By: Izaak Diggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Izaak Diggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 19:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the time for artists like yourself has come.  I mean, now you can have recording software on your computer; you don&#039;t need to spend half a million on an album.  The label is an anacronism; they have connections, they can open doors, but you already have your loyal fans (myself being one of them).  I like your idea of the cooperative; you have a receiving only PayPal account on your website and your supporters contribute what they can.  With all the social networking sites, people into what you do know when you will be gigging/doing book signings.  The balance of art and commerce is a bugger, isn&#039;t it?  But the good thing is that the thing that makes you &quot;unmarketable&quot; to a label conversely has given you a fanbase that is very loyal and &quot;into&quot; your creations.  You are unique, but in a good way</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the time for artists like yourself has come.  I mean, now you can have recording software on your computer; you don&#8217;t need to spend half a million on an album.  The label is an anacronism; they have connections, they can open doors, but you already have your loyal fans (myself being one of them).  I like your idea of the cooperative; you have a receiving only PayPal account on your website and your supporters contribute what they can.  With all the social networking sites, people into what you do know when you will be gigging/doing book signings.  The balance of art and commerce is a bugger, isn&#8217;t it?  But the good thing is that the thing that makes you &#8220;unmarketable&#8221; to a label conversely has given you a fanbase that is very loyal and &#8220;into&#8221; your creations.  You are unique, but in a good way</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan McKinney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan McKinney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think most fans would be proud to support good music. Take a look at the working model that Amy Corriea and Jill Sobule came up with to produce their fan-funded albums. Not only did I participate in Amy&#039;s, I frequently check to see when I can help with the next album. Good music is worth the extra effort. The quality of what you do has a premium for those that know, and many of us would take pride in being a part of your efforts.

And BTW, her album is one of the best I&#039;ve heard in a long time, so I&#039;m pretty certain the quality didn&#039;t suffer an ounce for the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most fans would be proud to support good music. Take a look at the working model that Amy Corriea and Jill Sobule came up with to produce their fan-funded albums. Not only did I participate in Amy&#8217;s, I frequently check to see when I can help with the next album. Good music is worth the extra effort. The quality of what you do has a premium for those that know, and many of us would take pride in being a part of your efforts.</p>
<p>And BTW, her album is one of the best I&#8217;ve heard in a long time, so I&#8217;m pretty certain the quality didn&#8217;t suffer an ounce for the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Tenley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tenley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that is an honest and great essay of sorts. i hope that you continue to make music and i will join in on continuing to support/love your music. not to pick favorites but i absolutely love all the throwing muses songs!

much love, tenley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is an honest and great essay of sorts. i hope that you continue to make music and i will join in on continuing to support/love your music. not to pick favorites but i absolutely love all the throwing muses songs!</p>
<p>much love, tenley</p>
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		<title>By: Alex McGhie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex McGhie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, in the current climate (or any climate for that matter) I would embrace all of those principles.  Count me in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, in the current climate (or any climate for that matter) I would embrace all of those principles.  Count me in.</p>
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		<title>By: fringefreak</title>
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		<dc:creator>fringefreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard Joni Mitchell talk about how her record label was perfectly happy if she sold her 200,000 units in a slow, steady fashion. They didn&#039;t expect Mega Superstar sales, but so long as they kept a true artist in their stable, they could be considered players in the record industry.  It&#039;s great to see someone like a David Bowie, who&#039;se taken control of most of his catalogue and internet content, get the fuller share of his creative output.  I applaud you, K, for bringing your well deserved fans along on your journey.  You deserve the greater slice of the pie...but moreso, it&#039;s nice to see you treat it with reverence, like a true artisenal creation.  All the power to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Joni Mitchell talk about how her record label was perfectly happy if she sold her 200,000 units in a slow, steady fashion. They didn&#8217;t expect Mega Superstar sales, but so long as they kept a true artist in their stable, they could be considered players in the record industry.  It&#8217;s great to see someone like a David Bowie, who&#8217;se taken control of most of his catalogue and internet content, get the fuller share of his creative output.  I applaud you, K, for bringing your well deserved fans along on your journey.  You deserve the greater slice of the pie&#8230;but moreso, it&#8217;s nice to see you treat it with reverence, like a true artisenal creation.  All the power to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for young bands like us, record lables are the last thing on our minds. We manage/book/market in the DIY fasion that most indie bands do now days and it seems to be the only way to do it. Take for instance Amanda Palmer. She too severed ties with the industry and is now almost completely fan funded (a twitter phenom). At least you both had the labels in the begining, before the itunes/myspace/twitter world existed allowing you to have some brand/name recognition. I think Jill Sobule had the right idea, allow the fans to take stock in the music they love. Screw the labels. Let fans support you directly by making contributions for the album. I really feel that soon enough we&#039;ll all be internet buskers, with our paypal accounts open, not guitar cases, next to us as we sing for dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for young bands like us, record lables are the last thing on our minds. We manage/book/market in the DIY fasion that most indie bands do now days and it seems to be the only way to do it. Take for instance Amanda Palmer. She too severed ties with the industry and is now almost completely fan funded (a twitter phenom). At least you both had the labels in the begining, before the itunes/myspace/twitter world existed allowing you to have some brand/name recognition. I think Jill Sobule had the right idea, allow the fans to take stock in the music they love. Screw the labels. Let fans support you directly by making contributions for the album. I really feel that soon enough we&#8217;ll all be internet buskers, with our paypal accounts open, not guitar cases, next to us as we sing for dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there...quick honest answer without having read the comments above so apologies

i never listened to the Throwing Muses despite being surrounded by indie kids recommending them growing up and sort of being an indie kid myself at the time...no idea why but there it is

then, many years later, i saw you mentioned in a list of &quot;musicians who twitter&quot; a while ago and signed up. can&#039;t say i&#039;ve been paying too much attention but i sort of register the odd tweet.

then, today, i kind of read this article (you can see a vagueness theme developing here maybe) and now it&#039;s a little bit in my head to actually become one of those random small number of followers. not saying i will now but it&#039;s now a definite possibility. 

i suppose the simplest way of saying this is that the mere fact you talked to me at some stage like a human being while being demonstrably one yourself is kind of enough to get me interested, after literally twenty years of ignoring your music though being aware of its existence, in actually hearing some of it or maybe giving you some cash at some stage. 

so, i&#039;ve no idea what the moral there is but having read your thing i think this will all work out for you because even writing something like that (particularly having already been involved in the music biz) puts you ahead of 99% of the industry in my book so i&#039;d like to genuinely wish you all the best with this and hope it goes well

there ends my garbled contribution...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there&#8230;quick honest answer without having read the comments above so apologies</p>
<p>i never listened to the Throwing Muses despite being surrounded by indie kids recommending them growing up and sort of being an indie kid myself at the time&#8230;no idea why but there it is</p>
<p>then, many years later, i saw you mentioned in a list of &#8220;musicians who twitter&#8221; a while ago and signed up. can&#8217;t say i&#8217;ve been paying too much attention but i sort of register the odd tweet.</p>
<p>then, today, i kind of read this article (you can see a vagueness theme developing here maybe) and now it&#8217;s a little bit in my head to actually become one of those random small number of followers. not saying i will now but it&#8217;s now a definite possibility. </p>
<p>i suppose the simplest way of saying this is that the mere fact you talked to me at some stage like a human being while being demonstrably one yourself is kind of enough to get me interested, after literally twenty years of ignoring your music though being aware of its existence, in actually hearing some of it or maybe giving you some cash at some stage. </p>
<p>so, i&#8217;ve no idea what the moral there is but having read your thing i think this will all work out for you because even writing something like that (particularly having already been involved in the music biz) puts you ahead of 99% of the industry in my book so i&#8217;d like to genuinely wish you all the best with this and hope it goes well</p>
<p>there ends my garbled contribution&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Librarian@Play</title>
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		<dc:creator>Librarian@Play</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you&#039;re describing is less &quot;a grassroots kind of capitalism&quot; than a gift economy. You might be interested in Lewis Hyde&#039;s book &lt;i&gt;The Gift&lt;/i&gt;. It&#039;s a fascinating read and quite relevant to your approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you&#8217;re describing is less &#8220;a grassroots kind of capitalism&#8221; than a gift economy. You might be interested in Lewis Hyde&#8217;s book <i>The Gift</i>. It&#8217;s a fascinating read and quite relevant to your approach.</p>
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		<title>By: skylar totty</title>
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		<dc:creator>skylar totty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that my 5 year old daughter and 2 year old son grin sing and move at each and every one of your songs tells me that you&#039;re doing something special and beyond capital corporate blah and these children know what it takes to support and enjoy and most importantly appreciate an artist  like you. the fact that the best memories i have with my wife are seeing you perform should mean something. you more than any other artist/musician are what makes this family whole. we&#039;ll support each and everything you do. an aside story of magic came 14 years ago in washington dc when a car pulled up next to ours (my wife and i) and the passenger asked where &quot;throwing muses university&quot; was located. they saw the sticker on the back window of our car. we proudly shared what it really meant and who throwing muses is. maybe a new fan was created that day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that my 5 year old daughter and 2 year old son grin sing and move at each and every one of your songs tells me that you&#8217;re doing something special and beyond capital corporate blah and these children know what it takes to support and enjoy and most importantly appreciate an artist  like you. the fact that the best memories i have with my wife are seeing you perform should mean something. you more than any other artist/musician are what makes this family whole. we&#8217;ll support each and everything you do. an aside story of magic came 14 years ago in washington dc when a car pulled up next to ours (my wife and i) and the passenger asked where &#8220;throwing muses university&#8221; was located. they saw the sticker on the back window of our car. we proudly shared what it really meant and who throwing muses is. maybe a new fan was created that day.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Perley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Perley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the essay you need to boil down to three sentences? Good luck with THAT!

Your position is indeed a conundrum. The current violently changing world of music marketing could work in your favor, but you may need a crystal ball to discern how exactly to make it work best for you. The chips are still flying — both an opportunity and an annoyance.

I think it&#039;s brilliant, and not a little hilarious, that Billy is teaching music marketing at Loyola. This is akin to John Waters getting kicked out of film school, then, years later, successful, being asked to lecture at Harvard. Billy is brilliant, and an asset as well as an ally. If anyone can find the pulse of this strange marketing world, he can.

After the Bright Yellow Gun debacle that you told me about (to point to just one example), where WB didn&#039;t just fail to promote your product, but actively cockblocked it, I can&#039;t see how you would ever feel comfortable working for The Man again.

The ideal of music speaking for itself and getting to the masses on its own merit is a pretty one, but, sadly, unrealistic. Marketing is such a huge part of any publishing industry: writing, music, film, etc. How many people have I introduced to your music who say, &quot;Who is this? My god, it&#039;s fantastic! I&#039;ve never heard anything like it. Just what I&#039;m looking for!&quot; Such awareness comes via marketing, obviously, though I do my best to word-of-mouth you to anyone who will listen. Can&#039;t reach everyone though, try as I might.

Myface and Spacebook = good. Radio play = better. Distribution and being well-stocked in brick-and-mortar shops seems key. How does one accomplish all this? Fuck if I know. I&#039;m just a consumer.

CASH is, of course, a radical and thoroughly interesting new approach. I look forward to watching its evolution and ts tweaking to bring it to its full potential.

To close: I&#039;m TERRIBLY glad you&#039;re so prolific after all these years, and it&#039;s exhilarating to follow your own artistic evolution — always fresh and always quality. You really are a national treasure, you know.

Let&#039;s talk more over tiny quiches at d&#039;Or.  :-)

xoxo, Todd P.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the essay you need to boil down to three sentences? Good luck with THAT!</p>
<p>Your position is indeed a conundrum. The current violently changing world of music marketing could work in your favor, but you may need a crystal ball to discern how exactly to make it work best for you. The chips are still flying — both an opportunity and an annoyance.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s brilliant, and not a little hilarious, that Billy is teaching music marketing at Loyola. This is akin to John Waters getting kicked out of film school, then, years later, successful, being asked to lecture at Harvard. Billy is brilliant, and an asset as well as an ally. If anyone can find the pulse of this strange marketing world, he can.</p>
<p>After the Bright Yellow Gun debacle that you told me about (to point to just one example), where WB didn&#8217;t just fail to promote your product, but actively cockblocked it, I can&#8217;t see how you would ever feel comfortable working for The Man again.</p>
<p>The ideal of music speaking for itself and getting to the masses on its own merit is a pretty one, but, sadly, unrealistic. Marketing is such a huge part of any publishing industry: writing, music, film, etc. How many people have I introduced to your music who say, &#8220;Who is this? My god, it&#8217;s fantastic! I&#8217;ve never heard anything like it. Just what I&#8217;m looking for!&#8221; Such awareness comes via marketing, obviously, though I do my best to word-of-mouth you to anyone who will listen. Can&#8217;t reach everyone though, try as I might.</p>
<p>Myface and Spacebook = good. Radio play = better. Distribution and being well-stocked in brick-and-mortar shops seems key. How does one accomplish all this? Fuck if I know. I&#8217;m just a consumer.</p>
<p>CASH is, of course, a radical and thoroughly interesting new approach. I look forward to watching its evolution and ts tweaking to bring it to its full potential.</p>
<p>To close: I&#8217;m TERRIBLY glad you&#8217;re so prolific after all these years, and it&#8217;s exhilarating to follow your own artistic evolution — always fresh and always quality. You really are a national treasure, you know.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s talk more over tiny quiches at d&#8217;Or.  <img src='http://www.kristinhersh.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>xoxo, Todd P.</p>
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